If we would like to use an "ecological" or at least the most-resource-saving protocol on Internet for exchanging text and files and which is secure, what could it be?
Gopher is quite simple, but has no security.
Gemini integrates with TLS, but doesn't allow to know the file's size before downloading. I think it is better to be able to choose to download according to the file size.
HTTPS allows maybe too much overhead and too much linked resources.
@KillianKemps how about shared sftp spaces?
@julienxx Right! It may be as simple as using SFTP.
We could have a SFTP space with SFTP logs.
Is SFTP already used like this?
@julienxx You think Scuttlebutt is more energy efficient than SFTP?
The thing is, from what I tried, the Patchwork client is developed in Electron and is quite resource intensive. Also there is this synchronization step at the beginning for Patchwork and Manyverse which uses a lot too.
I like the ability to exchange offline and to synchronize later, but on the client-side at least it seems quite resource-intensive.
@KillianKemps I can only suppose since it’s peer to peer without a server running 24/24. Never tried it so I can’t say about the clients but there are non-JS ones being developed
I'm actually super interested in this whole line of thinking. I have meant for a while to start work on some kind of "side spec" (like robots.txt or sitemap.xml, etc) for Gemini which defines one or two well-known endpoints at which clients can download (i) a list of all files on a server, with their MIME type and filesize, (ii) a big ol' tarball of the entire site.
@Steinar @solderpunk @KillianKemps I really have no clue how it would work yet but I had this very early vision of combining SFTP with RSS. Could be nice, a feed per host for those willing to in a multi-user setup or a feed per folder or user account and you could be notified and get the new content for offline reading or whatever, with the tools you prefer... maybe even add files as comments for other text files to enable discussion... I don’t know maybe there is something
@DHeadshot It is an interesting idea, I think SFTP would be even a little bit better because the data goes into the same SSH connection.
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